John Brownlee’s bad weekend

I was not able to make the RPV Advance.  Like many eastern Virginians, the Homestead is too far away and too remote for me.  Kudos to the folks who could get there.

If Shaun Kenney’s account is even remotely accurate, Jeff Frederick had a bad weekend, but not nearly as bad as John Brownlee’s was.  I say that – acknowledging it will upset my friends on the Brownlee side – for two reasons.

The most obvious, but not the most damaging in my view, is the result of the RPV straw poll.  I know the Brownlee commenters are talking up the fact that they denied Ken Cuccinelli a majority (they should talk to the campaign itself, which really looked silly in its release on the matter – Crystal Clear Conservative), but this was an event held in the heart of Brownlee’s regional base – roughly three hours from the base of the other two candidates – and he couldn’t get even 40%.  I honestly thought Brownlee would winthe straw poll, given his regional advantage (Ron Paul had a similar advantage at last year’s NoVa advance, as I explain here).  This poll clearly makes Cuccinelli the favorite (I had perceived Brownlee as such until this weekend).

That said, the bigger problem for Brownlee came courtesy of . . . John Brownlee, i.e., his performance in Saturday’s debate.

Again, based on Shaun’s account, Brownlee actually came out in favor of price controls as part of some “consumer rights” kick.  Prior to that, when given a heaven-sent opportunity on HB3202, Brownlee refused to oppose the now-junked tax increases.  Sure he needled Cuccinelli for supporting the Howell version of HB3202 (which Ken himself has admitted was a mistake, and one for which he made up in the special session), but his authoritative phrase – “If you’re going to raise taxes stand up and say that’s what you are doing” – (Jason Kenney @BD) makes my blood run cold (If you’re going to raise taxes, sit down and don’t run as a Republican!).

Foster’s answer was just as bad, creating the unique irony that the only fellow in the race who voted for a tax increase (Cuccinelli) still has the best position on taxes.  All Brownlee or Foster had to do was say, in effect, “HB3202 stunk because it raised taxes, period.”  If either had, they would have won the room and probably won the straw poll.  Instead, they played the establishment line and left it to Cuccinelli to pick up the anti-tax-increase standard.

I know Brownlee’s people are fixated on his history as a prosecutor, but his instinct for bringing government power into the economy (best revealed by the price controls remark) is disturbing.  Lest we forget, the only Virginia Republican to win more the 50% of the vote in a statewide election since 2002 was Bill Bolling, who never supported a tax increase until two years after his election in 2005 (like Cuccinelli, it was HB3202, and like him, he has returned to the anti-tax-hike side).

Brownlee’s refusal to support limited government on economic issues is exactly what has put the Republican Party of Virginia in its current mess.  His message will do nothing to win over the voters who have left the Virginia GOP since 2001.  Moreover, as word gets out about this debate and what he said, more and more Virginia Republicans I suspect will be skittish about him.

Make no mistake, I’d vote for John Brownlee over either of the two aspirants from which the Democrats will choose as their nominee, but I’m no longer so certain Brownlee would beat either of them.  In fact, I don’t think he’ll get the chance.

15 Responses to “John Brownlee’s bad weekend”

  1. Brad Smith Says:

    Sigh. I almost wish Ken would drop his AG bid. I’d like to see VA11 come back into our camp in ‘10, and frankly Ken is the only guy out there who can do it.

  2. rightwingliberal Says:

    I am amazed at how so many people want Ken to run for something OTHER THAN Attorney General.

    Look, Republicans can win in NoVa. You just have to focus on lower taxes and limited government. Virginia Republicans have been lax on both since 2001, and they’ve been losing (in NoVa and statewide). Ken Cuccinelli can’t reverse this trend on his own UNLESS he has the visibility of a statewide office. Meanwhile, if the local GOP recognized this and acted accordingly, it wouldn’t need Ken.

  3. Salem Republicans Says:

    With all due respect, the only way you could perceive Brownlee to have had a bad weekend is if you weren’t there. All 3 did great in the debate but Brownlee owned the first 30 minutes. The price gouging question was clearly won by Cuccinelli but, after that, it pretty well evened out.

    Also, you’re missing the dynamics of the 6th if you think this is Brownlee country. The 6th District, especially the Shen Valley and SWAC areas are as far from Brownlee country as you can be. I don’t care how geographically close they are. The reality is that Cuccinelli may do better in the 6th and 9th than even the 11th.

    At the end of the day, all 3 men aquitted themselves well and I have still not endorsed any. On the ground at the Advance (other than the few bloggers making noise, all of whom went in as Cuccinelli supporters) the event as a whole was viewed anywhere from a draw to a solid Brownlee win and the solificiation of this as a race. No one, and I repeat no one, other than the dyed in the wool supporters, are coming to the conclusions you’re coming to.

  4. rightwingliberal Says:

    SR,
    First of all, glad to see you around here!
    IMHO, the “price gouging” stuff overshadows everything else. That will be a major turn-off here in the east.
    As for Brownlee’s base, if it isn’t the 6th and 9th, then where is it? He is THE western candidate. He should be strong in the west, period.
    Finally, I will admit my perspective is unique. Perhaps alone among bloggers, I actually considered Brownlee the favorite. I figured he’d lock up the west while Cuccinelli and Foster split the east (or, to be precise, Foster took enough delegates to prevent a Cuccinelli majority); then Foster delivers his vote to Brownlee and that’s that.

    After this weekend, though, I’ve changed by outlook. If Cuccinelli can get 47% at an event in Hot Springs, he would easily get a majority at the Richmond convention.

    Of course, the convention is next year, and Brownlee has plenty of time to catch up, otherwise my last sentence in the post would be a lot stronger. However, as more Republicans get to know Brownlee, his economic interventionism will turn voters off – and make it harder for Foster’s delegates to back him (perhaps even Foster himself will have a hard time doing it).

    All I’ve done is come closer to the predominant CW, that Cuccinelli is the favorite (not that it’s in the bag for him), but since I was far more pessimistic than anyone else in Cucc’s camp, I moving in a different direction than most who followed this race. I’m guessing that’s what has thrown you here.

  5. Salem Republicans Says:

    Appreciate your take. It’s interesting to me because I didn’t hear any at the Advance (not that I talked to everyone) talking about the substance of Brownlee’s price gouging answer. Lots of people thought he lost the question but it was because of Cuccinelli’s answer, not Brownlee’s. The truth is, we have price gouging laws on the books so it is absolutely the AG’s and local prosecutors’ jobs to enforce those laws. Debating the validity of those laws is an entirely different question.

    Here’s what I got from the debate. All 3 men are intelligent, articulate and accomplished in their legal careers. Brownlee overwhelmingly wins the law enforcement community but Cuccinelli wins among those who don’t view the AG as a law enforcement officer. Being on the ground at the Advance, Brownlee’s organization was the most impressive but Cuccinelli is clearly the favorite son of the true to the core conservatives. The reason I dismiss the “Advance was in Brownlee’s territory” argument is that the 6th is the most ideologically right area in the state.

    If I had to guess, I’d say Cuccinelli wins the 6th, 9th and NOVA. I think Brownlee runs very strong in Richmond, Hampton Roads and Southside. The question is whether Brownlee’s NOVA roots and Foster’s candidacy help any up there. At this point, I think we’re heading towards a very interesting convention that’s not likely to be settled on vote one. Before this Advance I would have said Cuccinelli gets at least 65%. To quote a Cuccinelli blogger – “Brownlee folks are kidding themselves because this is going to be a blood bath.” No one is saying that anymore.

  6. rightwingliberal Says:

    I think Cuccinelli will win Hampton Roads. He has a strong support base down there. As for the 6th and 9th, I’ll consider them Brownlee areas until the votes are counted.

    I’d also note that Gilmore narrowly won the 6th over Marshall.

    Anyhow, we both agree that this will be a race, and that any of these three are better than what the Dems have to offer.

  7. Zach Kitts Says:

    I hate to play this role again, but the comments of Cuccinelli’s bloggers just get more and more ignorant. Let’s get things straight folks–Brownlee referred to PRICE GOUGING not price controls. If you don’t know the difference, you have no business commenting on the AG race.

    OAG is a tough job folks, and Cuccinelli has no experience and no idea what the job entails. I hope at least that Cuccinelli understands price gouging vs. price controls.

    As a matter of fact, PRICE GOUGING has been zealously prosecuted by Bob McDonnell, who had this to say on the matter:

    “Taking advantage of Virginians by unfairly increasing the price of necessary items like gasoline in times of emergency is unacceptable. The Office of the Attorney General will do everything we can to prevent and prosecute such actions. I support expanding this law to cover other levels of the supply chain, and not just Virginia retailers who may be at the mercy of their suppliers. I will work to accomplish this needed reform when the General Assembly reconvenes in January 2009.”

    I take it your attack was on Bob McDonnell also?

  8. rightwingliberal Says:

    First of all, it was a criticism, not an attack. I had no idea the Brownlee bloggers were so thin-skinned.

    Secondly, economics and the law do conflict sometimes, but it would be nice to see political candidates recognize where the law gets it wrong. Unless McDonnell is talking about prosecuting Saudi sheiks and hurricanes, “expanding” the “price gouging” law will accomplish nothing. McDonnell himself admitted to its problem when he talked about “retailers . . . at the mercy of their suppliers.” Never mind that the suppliers themselves are usually “at the mercy” of unforeseen events that wiped out their supply chain.

  9. Salem Republicans Says:

    I’ll throw one more thing out as a FWIW. I’ve heard rumors that Brownlee may get some pretty interesting endorsements that will shake things up a little. I’m sure Cuccinelli will have some big guns come out for him as well. Going to be fun.

  10. Kilo Says:

    Over 75 Commonwealth Attorneys and Sheriffs have already endorsed Brownlee. The support may not have been at the advance but it will be at the convention. Those endorsements and the campaigning they will do for Brownlee will be priceless.
    This will be the year Cooch has to explain taking money from SAFA and he will sink like the Bismark when that happens. You know it was wrong, voters do too. He has remained silent on that too long and that is costing him support. The press has the guns loaded just waiting for him to comment and after all this time he does not have a leg to stand on. Talking money from SAFA will overshadow the whole ticket. That one issue alone will haunt him and he brought it all on himself. It will take more than NOVA support to win this one DJ. Cooch should have won the straw poll by 20% over a first timer. Instead, we have a neck and neck race that I predict will show Brownlee gaining support daily as Cooch try’s to explain why he took money from a group with terrorist ties Silence wont work on this one.

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  12. rightwingliberal Says:

    Hi Carl! Good to hear from you again.
    Um, you do know that Ken is also a first time state candidate, right? Brownlee was a US attorney for half the state for seven years – and the Advance was in that half of the state.
    Honestly, I’m surprised Ken won the poll at all.
    Now, if you want to bring up donations from more than five years ago – from companies that were part of a larger group that has not been indicted for anything – feel free, but so far, Brownlee’s old bosses at DoJ haven’t even been able to get to the ham-sandwich level (not to be confused with Ham Sandwich, of course). This would explain why (1) Brownlee himself won’t mention any of this, and (2) Black Velvet Bruce Li (the scourge of Faisal Gill’s existence) is backing Ken.

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  15. Brian Says:

    Well, Brownlee is definitely having a bad week now:
    http://johnlbrownlee.com/controversies/senator-bill-dolan/

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