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	<title>Comments on: Why wasn&#8217;t Vince upset about Gilmore&#8217;s numbers in 2004?</title>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/why-wasnt-vince-upset-about-gilmores-numbers-in-2004/#comment-2384</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a money trail somewhere between Warner and Callahan?  I mean, when Warren Barry (Ken Cuccinelli&#039;s predecessor) supported Warner in 2001, Warner then gave him a State job.

Maybe Callahan should refund all the money that loyal Republicans donated to him all these years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a money trail somewhere between Warner and Callahan?  I mean, when Warren Barry (Ken Cuccinelli&#8217;s predecessor) supported Warner in 2001, Warner then gave him a State job.</p>
<p>Maybe Callahan should refund all the money that loyal Republicans donated to him all these years.</p>
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		<title>By: spankthatdonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>spankthatdonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would argue that the Citizens of Va put forth another 9 billion dollars in tax revenue for the General Assembly to spend, as DJ pointed out in an earlier post, and everyone got so excited about how they could spend it ya&#039;ll forgot about who sent it in the first place.

If $950 M, or really $1 B annually (couldn&#039;t bring yourselves to do it huh guys?) given back to the people represents roughly 65 -70% of the car tax, than very simple math says $1.4 B annually gets you close to the original phase out....

Does anyone really want to make the argument, besides Governor &quot;I just made up a $6 B deficit, because it sounds good&quot; Warner, to the people of Va?

DJ is right, where did the other $8 Billion go?  Every year you crank up the size of govt. the more and more it has to be fed.

Limited Govt. Lower Taxation.  What the big spenders are arguing is that it is ok to feed the growth of govt annually with what ever the citizenry sends to the coffers... budget it and expect more next year...

but Dear God ? Budget to give back one freaking tax to the localities/citizens?  We the Legislators can&#039;t afford that!

Ya&#039;ll really frustrate me, by exactly how stupid you think the average $4 dollar a gallon paying motorist is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would argue that the Citizens of Va put forth another 9 billion dollars in tax revenue for the General Assembly to spend, as DJ pointed out in an earlier post, and everyone got so excited about how they could spend it ya&#8217;ll forgot about who sent it in the first place.</p>
<p>If $950 M, or really $1 B annually (couldn&#8217;t bring yourselves to do it huh guys?) given back to the people represents roughly 65 -70% of the car tax, than very simple math says $1.4 B annually gets you close to the original phase out&#8230;.</p>
<p>Does anyone really want to make the argument, besides Governor &#8220;I just made up a $6 B deficit, because it sounds good&#8221; Warner, to the people of Va?</p>
<p>DJ is right, where did the other $8 Billion go?  Every year you crank up the size of govt. the more and more it has to be fed.</p>
<p>Limited Govt. Lower Taxation.  What the big spenders are arguing is that it is ok to feed the growth of govt annually with what ever the citizenry sends to the coffers&#8230; budget it and expect more next year&#8230;</p>
<p>but Dear God ? Budget to give back one freaking tax to the localities/citizens?  We the Legislators can&#8217;t afford that!</p>
<p>Ya&#8217;ll really frustrate me, by exactly how stupid you think the average $4 dollar a gallon paying motorist is?</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Bell</title>
		<link>http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/why-wasnt-vince-upset-about-gilmores-numbers-in-2004/#comment-2375</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not saying you don&#039;t have a point.  Just saying he was up for reelection in 2005 and he isn&#039;t now.  You probably could argue either position is the one of true intent.  Not to defend Vince but numbers projected by the Governor probably  frustrasted his need to produce a balanced budget and his vote in 2004 was purely for keeping his seat.  Also for keeping it in GOP hands at least one more cycle.

As a side note Warner never had anything to do with the cap.  It was purely a legislative creation.  He was ok with it and signed it of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not saying you don&#8217;t have a point.  Just saying he was up for reelection in 2005 and he isn&#8217;t now.  You probably could argue either position is the one of true intent.  Not to defend Vince but numbers projected by the Governor probably  frustrasted his need to produce a balanced budget and his vote in 2004 was purely for keeping his seat.  Also for keeping it in GOP hands at least one more cycle.</p>
<p>As a side note Warner never had anything to do with the cap.  It was purely a legislative creation.  He was ok with it and signed it of course.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingliberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why would he say it was Gilmore&#039;s numbers that led him to back phase four in 2001?

The logic behind Warner&#039;s cap was basically the same Chcihester used in his argument to delay phase four in 2001.  If Callahan was just voting for his district, then Gilmore&#039;s numbers have nothing to do with it.  In which case, Callahan is just scapegoating him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why would he say it was Gilmore&#8217;s numbers that led him to back phase four in 2001?</p>
<p>The logic behind Warner&#8217;s cap was basically the same Chcihester used in his argument to delay phase four in 2001.  If Callahan was just voting for his district, then Gilmore&#8217;s numbers have nothing to do with it.  In which case, Callahan is just scapegoating him.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought one might not exactly relate to the other.  Callahan voted against the car tax relief spending program possibly because the cap of spending would have cut money following into his region of the state.  If you notice most GOP legislators that voted for the cap were from Western Virginia such as Saxman, Landes, Nutter, Carrico, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought one might not exactly relate to the other.  Callahan voted against the car tax relief spending program possibly because the cap of spending would have cut money following into his region of the state.  If you notice most GOP legislators that voted for the cap were from Western Virginia such as Saxman, Landes, Nutter, Carrico, etc.</p>
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