My junior senator has a new book out, and was hawking it on Meet the Press. Sadly, the affliction that has plagued him every day in the U.S. Senate went into the studio with him.
Here are some of the lowlights from his appearance (MSNBC):
I think we’ve done some incredibly productive things in the last year and a half in the Senate . . .
Now, to be fair, Webb may just be learning to speak Warnerese on that one (in which case, the translations is “I think we’ve pretended to do some incredibly productive things in the last year and a half in the Senate“), but the stuff that comes later in the interview cannot be so explained. Here’s his take on the Middle East:
The military people have always done what they’ve been asked to do. The military situation in Iraq is a classic holding action, in classical terms, which is in place so that political resolutions can be made. And if President Bush were to use the right historical example, he probably should be looking at China in the 1970s rather than the situation in Germany in 1930s where we had a rogue regime with nukes, with an American war on its border that was spouting all of this hostile rhetoric and was not a part of the international community; and by aggressive diplomacy at the same time that we kept all of our other options on the table and maintained all of our other alliances, we were able to arguably bring China into the world community.
What makes this especially painful is that it is nearly the exact opposite of what he thought about Communist China before he became a Senator. In fact, Webb’s resolute anti-Communism in his life before holding office was one of his most admirable qualities. To see him take his years of thoughtful analysis and drop it in the trash like that is especially disappointing to those of us who have maintained our concern about the dangers of the Communist Chinese regime.
Webb further goes on to discuss his GI Bill (and to claim that anyone who opposes it has no respect for the military), and becomes one of the very few Democrats to get corrected by Tim Russert (Ouch!):
I, I introduced this G.I. bill my first day in office. The idea was to give to people who’d been serving since 9/11 the same educational benefits, the same right to a first-class future as those who served in World War II . . . And now the president says he’s going to veto this bill. No president in history has, has vetoed a, a benefits bill for those who’ve served. So on the one hand, we have this rhetoric, which goes to what I was writing saying, “This is the next greatest generation, these guys are so great.” And then we see this president, he’s fine with sending these people over and over again where they’re spending more time in Iraq than they are at home. He’s fine with the notion of stop loss, where we can, we can make people stay in even after enlistments are done. And then we say, “Give them the same benefit that the people in World War II have,” and they say it’s too expensive. So I think the Republican Party is, you know, is, is on the block here to, to clearly demonstrate that they value military service or suffer the consequences of losing the support of people who’ve, who’ve served.
RUSSERT: The Pentagon, the administration and other editorials across the country have said the problem with the bill is that if, after three years people can leave with full benefits, it’ll be very difficult to retain good soldiers, to have them re-enlist.
Oops! Perhaps Webb should make sure he knows what his opponents’ argument actually is before goes impugning their motives or their honesty.
Finally, there is Iraq, in particular Webb’s response to this question from Russert – “How do the Democrats argue withdrawal from Iraq without being perceived as weak on foreign or defense policy?”
Well, I think what we need is the kind of leadership that knows how to aggressively pursue robust diplomacy, just as the Baker-Hamilton report and a lot of very strong Republicans from past administrations like Brent Scowcroft have, have said. There’s a, there’s a fair preponderance of people who have been thinking in this area who believe that you can put the right sort of diplomatic mechanisms in place so that we can withdraw our troops. To turn that around the other way, I do not believe that you’re ever going to have stability in that region with a large number of troops in Iraq. We were saying that, the–I was, I was writing about that six months before the invasion. So it is in the national interest for us to remove our combat forces. It is in our economic interest in terms of larger grand strategy to do it, and it is doable. So I don’t think there’s a downside for the Democratic Party to be saying that.
What Webb leaves out is this: any sort of “diplomatic mechanism” means talking to Iran and Syria, the two regimes that have the most to lose from our success in Iraq and the regimes that have done the most to prevent it. Webb indeed warned about Iranian influence in Iraq prior to 2003, but he has never presented a reational for preventing it from happening. In fact, his entire policy on Iraq has been to accept Iran’s victory as inevitable – the exact reverse from what he believed (and still believes) about how the Vietnam War ended.
All in all, it was not one of Webb’s better days (of course, the fact that he opened his mouth had a lot to do with it), but at least this time he didn’t get the religion of Syria’s dictator wrong. Then again, he wasn’t asked.



That is a hollow argument against the GI Bill, since retention targets are typically set at 45% anyway. What Russert is attributing to the entire Pentagon is the idea that if we have a crappy GI Bill, then we will have better retention; clearly not true. We already have a re-enlistment bonus program and a big boost in pay for the first re-enlistment. As someone who has worked these recruiting issues over the years, I would love to be able to offer some sailor a better GI Bill to go along with his upcoming re-enlistment.
We need the GI Bill, and any enhancements to be applied to all Vets, not just those who serve in a particular era.
Below is an excerpt of a post that has appeared on some other sites:
worked for Jim Webb when he was SECNAV, but had I been in Congress, I would not have voted for his GI Bill.
I wrote to him and talked with his staff in advance of this Bill going to Committee. I pointed out that our military personnel, when they volunteer to join, do not sign up for a particular war, or join only for times of peace. They volunteer to serve, no matter what happens.
Given that we are supposed to all be equal under the law, why then would anyone promote a bill, including a GI Bill that treats the veterans of one era, differently than those who served in other eras?
What we should have is a GI Bill that is uniform all across the various political eras, and as changes are made, those changes must apply to all veterans, much like Social Security or other group compensation or medical programs.
To be specific, veterans who joined just at the end of the Vietnam era got no education benefits at all. There was a lousy pay-in program that wouldn’t fund a semester at most colleges. This program is known as VEAP and it manifested the contempt America felt toward the military during the post-Vietnam years. Later, when the “Montgomery GI Bill” was ushered in, those benefits of that program were not “grandfathered” to the VEAP veterans, unless the soldier had been foolish enough to invest in the patently bad VEAP accounts. As a consequence of having different programs for different eras of enlistment, we have soldiers who serve alongside one another where some have a good benefits package, while others have a lesser one and in the case of the VEAP era, no benefits at all.
No union, not even the federal government has workers in the same jobs, expected to work alongside others with wholly different benefits packages.
Jim Webb has at least made a try to help the Vets, but we need to have a GI Bill that applies uniformly to all veterans, regardless of the era in which they served. They didn’t pick their war, so we should not reward or punish them based on what happened during their eras of service to our country.
J,
The point I was making is that neither your argument nor the Pentagon’s argument is as Jim Webb characterizes it.
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