Comments on: No, Spanky, Gilmore could have done much more to limit spending http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/ hide the decline Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:07:45 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: SENATORIAL PROS AND CONS: ON EDUCATION « Citizen Tom http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-1972 SENATORIAL PROS AND CONS: ON EDUCATION « Citizen Tom Mon, 05 May 2008 16:06:23 +0000 http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-1972 [...] The right-wing liberal has has a different take on Gilmore’s contribution to higher education (here and here). [...] [...] The right-wing liberal has has a different take on Gilmore’s contribution to higher education (here and here). [...]

]]> By: Why Bob Marshall will win (Part III): Legislative experience « The right-wing liberal http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-574 Why Bob Marshall will win (Part III): Legislative experience « The right-wing liberal Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:50:24 +0000 http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-574 [...] The Gilmore bloggers have made much of the Governor’s record, and while I think it spottier than they do, Gilmore’s tenure as governor gave him executive experience that cannot be [...] [...] The Gilmore bloggers have made much of the Governor’s record, and while I think it spottier than they do, Gilmore’s tenure as governor gave him executive experience that cannot be [...]

]]> By: There are legitimate criticisms of Jim Gilmore’s record - and then there’s Lowell « The right-wing liberal http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-554 There are legitimate criticisms of Jim Gilmore’s record - and then there’s Lowell « The right-wing liberal Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:08:48 +0000 http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-554 [...] Kaine” (© 200?, Skeptical Observor) - were willing to talk about Gilmore’s spending habits, his worrisome statements on Iraq, or abortion, they might have landed a blow or two.  Then again, [...] [...] Kaine” (© 200?, Skeptical Observor) – were willing to talk about Gilmore’s spending habits, his worrisome statements on Iraq, or abortion, they might have landed a blow or two.  Then again, [...]

]]> By: rightwingliberal http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-516 rightwingliberal Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:54:01 +0000 http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-516 Oops! That should be "one-tenth" Oops! That should be “one-tenth”

]]> By: rightwingliberal http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-515 rightwingliberal Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:51:17 +0000 http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-515 If you are talking about the numbers you found here (http://www.finance.virginia.gov/KeyDocuments/PPTRA/CarTaxForecast2006-2010.pdf - nice find, BTW), the answer is yes. The new numbers are still 30% (Gilmore's spending increase) and 28% (Warner's increase) respectively; in fact, they each changed by less than one-teneth of one percent. I also fail to see how throwing a pile of money at state colleges counts as tax relief. It's not. It's a sop to a special interest. Perhaps this disconnect is behind your insistence that I am somehow dishonest here. As for the line-time veto, it can be sued for whatever the Governor wishes. The Constitution of Virginia grants him that power; the legislature can do nothing about it. He can veto funding for an entire Department if he so chooses. If you are talking about the numbers you found here (http://www.finance.virginia.gov/KeyDocuments/PPTRA/CarTaxForecast2006-2010.pdf – nice find, BTW), the answer is yes. The new numbers are still 30% (Gilmore’s spending increase) and 28% (Warner’s increase) respectively; in fact, they each changed by less than one-teneth of one percent.

I also fail to see how throwing a pile of money at state colleges counts as tax relief. It’s not. It’s a sop to a special interest.

Perhaps this disconnect is behind your insistence that I am somehow dishonest here.

As for the line-time veto, it can be sued for whatever the Governor wishes. The Constitution of Virginia grants him that power; the legislature can do nothing about it. He can veto funding for an entire Department if he so chooses.

]]> By: ShaunKenney.com » Bloggers 4 Gilmore Coming Unhinged? http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-5473 ShaunKenney.com » Bloggers 4 Gilmore Coming Unhinged? Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:22:09 +0000 http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-5473 [...] no worries… D.J. McGuire sets ‘em straight: The latest effort by Spank That Donkey to come to Jim Gilmore’s defense is, um, interesting. My [...] [...] no worries… D.J. McGuire sets ‘em straight: The latest effort by Spank That Donkey to come to Jim Gilmore’s defense is, um, interesting. My [...]

]]> By: Spank That Donkey http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-514 Spank That Donkey Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:39:47 +0000 http://rightwingliberal.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/no-spanky-gilmore-could-have-done-much-more-to-limit-spending/#comment-514 Oh really DJ: Qualified budget analyst you are, did you also readjust your #'s on the PPTRA as I emailed you earlier, because you used incorrect figures? How about factoring in any contributions to the rainy day fund, which Gov. Gilmore left office with over $1 Billion. Are the GARVEE fund factored into your spending equation? What about Bond issues, does that effect spending? No, you are just putting forth an assumption that Gov. Gilmore willingly spent more that Gov. Warner, just as you assumed earlier with your 36% figures. We both know that the difference in the Governors budgets had more to do with a pre 9-11 economy (Gilmore) and Warner's post 9-11, to hold down revenues, which is the true deciding factor on what amount gets spent by the General Assembly. Regardless of the budget numbers, Gov. Gilmore has been a chief executive, that came to office with a plan that relieved the citizens of a major tax burden, and used excess revenues to lower the hurdle of the cost of a higher education for all Virginians, 20% rollback and four year freeze on tuition. Your candidate had the PRIVILIDGE of voting for his plan, his ideas, and his actions.... I will say this again, in the Army of Cutting Taxes and bringing oversight to agencies such as VDOT, Gov. Gilmore is a four star general and your candidate is maybe a sargeant among the 100 members of the House.... Oh, and my good friend DJ, I am not hysterical... I am going to point out that B4G is spelling out in no uncertain terms why our candidate is the best candidate to fill Senator John Warner's Seat. We are not seeking to tear down fellow Republicans... and distort their records, with an incessant adjust the facts as we go negative campaign. I am not embarassed at all by my posts nor any postions I have taken, how about you? PS: I am no expert on how many times a line item veto has been used, how about you? I am sure it's main purpose is to threaten General Assembly Members pet projects to keep them in line, more than to make sweeping changes to budget bills. Why else would legislative bodies by loathe to give it to a chief executive? Oh really DJ:
Qualified budget analyst you are, did you also readjust your #’s on the PPTRA as I emailed you earlier, because you used incorrect figures? How about factoring in any contributions to the rainy day fund, which Gov. Gilmore left office with over $1 Billion. Are the GARVEE fund factored into your spending equation? What about Bond issues, does that effect spending?

No, you are just putting forth an assumption that Gov. Gilmore willingly spent more that Gov. Warner, just as you assumed earlier with your 36% figures. We both know that the difference in the Governors budgets had more to do with a pre 9-11 economy (Gilmore) and Warner’s post 9-11, to hold down revenues, which is the true deciding factor on what amount gets spent by the General Assembly.

Regardless of the budget numbers, Gov. Gilmore has been a chief executive, that came to office with a plan that relieved the citizens of a major tax burden, and used excess revenues to lower the hurdle of the cost of a higher education for all Virginians, 20% rollback and four year freeze on tuition.

Your candidate had the PRIVILIDGE of voting for his plan, his ideas, and his actions…. I will say this again, in the Army of Cutting Taxes and bringing oversight to agencies such as VDOT, Gov. Gilmore is a four star general and your candidate is maybe a sargeant among the 100 members of the House….

Oh, and my good friend DJ, I am not hysterical… I am going to point out that B4G is spelling out in no uncertain terms why our candidate is the best candidate to fill Senator John Warner’s Seat. We are not seeking to tear down fellow Republicans… and distort their records, with an incessant adjust the facts as we go negative campaign.

I am not embarassed at all by my posts nor any postions I have taken, how about you?

PS:
I am no expert on how many times a line item veto has been used, how about you? I am sure it’s main purpose is to threaten General Assembly Members pet projects to keep them in line, more than to make sweeping changes to budget bills. Why else would legislative bodies by loathe to give it to a chief executive?

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